Fifty Shades of Gender podcast graphic with Leonie Dawson

Episode 67

A conversation with Leonie Dawson


57 min. Recorded on 25 October 2021. 

Leonie’s pronouns are she/they, and they are non-binary. Find out what that means to Leonie in this episode.

We also talk about honouring the land we inhabit, the freedom that came from adding a ‘they’ pronoun while having a ‘she’ experience, being non-conforming in business, the importance of having open and honest money conversations, knowing who you are inside and standing for what you believe in, kicking the social media habit, and smashing the patriarchy by being more of yourself.

Terminology: BIPOC = Black, Indigenous & People of Colour

“My sense, and this is my experience, is that identity first is of being ourselves, and our body is just the thing that we happen to land in…so for me, it’s always been, I’m Leonie first, and then the body I’m in just happens to be the body that I’m in.”

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TRANSCRIPT [expand to read] – COMING SOON

We wish to acknowledge the Gubbi Gubbi people and Gunditjmara people, the Traditional and ongoing Custodians of the lands Leonie Dawson International creates and works from. We would like to pay our respects to their Elders, past, present and emerging. We also wish to acknowledge the traditional and ongoing custodians of the land and seas where you are, and pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging also.
[Taken from Leonie’s website]

About Leonie

Leonie Dawson is an internationally best-selling author of the 2021 Goal Getter workbooks & planners which have been used by over 400,000 people worldwide.

A multi-passionate entrepreneur, Leonie has generated over $10 million in revenue while only working 10 hours a week. Leonie has been recognised for her business acumen by winning Ausmumpreneur’s People’s Choice Business Coach, Global Brand & Businesses Making A Difference Awards.

Leonie has spent the last 10 years living in some of the most beautiful places around Australia. She currently lives with her two daughters and husband on the Sunshine Coast.

Leonie uses she/they pronouns.

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